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PostSubject: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 11:44 am

Talk about bad team mates LOL

This was a good watch lil bit of strategy you may pickup some tips if not fun to watch nonetheless. What I took away from this - I did not know after dropping a moab its double xp the rest of the match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=3ou1SkbFuls
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 11:51 am

this is why i hate kill confirmed. if he was playing the objective i would be more impressed
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 12:02 pm

Wow he's cool....and I still wouldn't want him on my team...non objective playing douche, stick to TDM
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 12:22 pm

i hould edit my response: with randoms I meant
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 12:30 pm

Last night, I had a similar experience. About 6 of us were playing Dom, and somebody was attempting to get the MOAB and ended up with a 53:3 KDR. After leading by about 30-50 for the entire match, one of the guys asked everybody to allow the other team to capture all 3 points so that he could get his MOAB. Guess what happened? Is it wrong that I was pissed off that one person chose themself over the team?
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 12:40 pm

Was that Ali-A? If so that sucks cuz I actually like his videos. Now not so much. Thats douchebaggery at its highest. I love how he didnt pick up the tags but rather lets the other team come and get them while he camps them. Lame gameplay in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 12:49 pm

Its his channel but not his gameplay.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 12:52 pm

BlackDeath wrote:
Its his channel but not his gameplay.

Ahhh gotcha.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 1:11 pm

marty2cros wrote:
Last night, I had a similar experience. About 6 of us were playing Dom, and somebody was attempting to get the MOAB and ended up with a 53:3 KDR. After leading by about 30-50 for the entire match, one of the guys asked everybody to allow the other team to capture all 3 points so that he could get his MOAB. Guess what happened? Is it wrong that I was pissed off that one person chose themself over the team?
Was it one of our clanmates asking this? Why bother?
I wouldn't have an issue with it if one of my teammates wanted the MOAB, I'd support them in any way I could, but I'd want to know about it before the match started and to be playing "the proper" game mode, groundwar TDM or KC. But really, only pedophiles get MOABs.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 1:29 pm

Honestly, I don't remember the guy's name and don't know if he was in the clan, but he WAS in the party that I was invited to by a member of the clan. One of my pet peeves is selfish game-play, because I always go for the objective and sacrifice myself, my KDR, and/or my accuracy for the team. However, after a game like that, I wonder if it is worth it.

Fortunately, after playing with the >30< for the past month, last night was my only negative experience.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 1:42 pm

Did you guys watch the video to the end? The narrator is a f'in idiot... "I'm gonna blame his teammates for this loss for not picking up the tags. You can see he tried to pick up a many tags as he could, esp. near the end." I think he missed at least 20 tags in this game play...red and yellow ones. Agreed, guys like this should stick to TDM.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 1:58 pm

I can't condemn the guy. A good killer is a great asset in a KC match. It requires collecting tags, so kills need to happen to generate those tags.

Quite frankly, I don't know how the hell they lost. He produced 92 sets of tags alone, so obviously his teammates weren't picking them up either. Sure he ran past some, but I'm not going to rip him for that. Not to mention he had countless reapers and Ospreys providing support suppressing enemy advancement. If we had this kind of player on our team, I'm fine with that. Others should know they have a guy who will produce tags, and they need to collect them.

In Dom, the killwhoring is also effective if they are running major killstreaks that help suppress the enemy and keep them indoors away from our flags.

The only time I think you are a weasel for killwhoring is if you run Specialist and go for the MOAB. That's selfish. Keep that for FFA.

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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 2:04 pm

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I can't condemn the guy. A good killer is a great asset in a KC match. It requires collecting tags, so kills need to happen to generate those tags.

Quite frankly, I don't know how the hell they lost. He produced 92 sets of tags alone, so obviously his teammates weren't picking them up either. Sure he ran past some, but I'm not going to rip him for that. Not to mention he had countless reapers and Ospreys providing support suppressing enemy advancement. If we had this kind of player on our team, I'm fine with that. Others should know they have a guy who will produce tags, and they need to collect them.

In Dom, the killwhoring is also effective if they are running major killstreaks that help suppress the enemy and keep them indoors away from our flags.

The only time I think you are a weasel for killwhoring is if you run Specialist and go for the MOAB. That's selfish. Keep that for FFA.


FBD, you bring up some very valuable points...I stand corrected.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 2:29 pm

True FBD. If we had a guy like that on our team we would win since the rest of us would hopefully be grabbing tags. I would gladly take a death if I could grab 3 tags on the way.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 3:17 pm

fatbrowndog wrote:
I can't condemn the guy. A good killer is a great asset in a KC match. It requires collecting tags, so kills need to happen to generate those tags.

Quite frankly, I don't know how the hell they lost. He produced 92 sets of tags alone, so obviously his teammates weren't picking them up either. Sure he ran past some, but I'm not going to rip him for that. Not to mention he had countless reapers and Ospreys providing support suppressing enemy advancement. If we had this kind of player on our team, I'm fine with that. Others should know they have a guy who will produce tags, and they need to collect them.

In Dom, the killwhoring is also effective if they are running major killstreaks that help suppress the enemy and keep them indoors away from our flags.

The only time I think you are a weasel for killwhoring is if you run Specialist and go for the MOAB. That's selfish. Keep that for FFA.


on the flip side, if he had just grabbed 1/10 of what he walked away from they probably would have won. And there were at least 10 that he could have grabbed without risk.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 4:35 pm

OK, so what exactly is a MOAB?
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 4:44 pm

The Mother Of All Bombs. It's MW3's version of the nuke, but the game doesn't end when it's deployed. It's a hidden 25 killstreak which isn't stacked by killstreaks. When it's deployed everyone on the other team is killed and their minimap is disabled the rest of the game. It's very hard to get so you won't come across it much. It is annoying when someone sets it off against you. Only happened once to me though so far.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 4:44 pm

Mother Of All Bombs. Its Nukeesque. But it doesnt end the game just kills the entire other team once and apparently gives you double xp for the rest of the game. Moab requires 25 legit gun kills. No killstreak kills.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 7:52 pm

I've never had one used against me. Yet.

I agree that the guy could have grabbed a few more than he did with minimal risk, but I'll forgive any of you from neglecting tags if you call in half a dozen reapers and ospreys in a KC match. I'll run into certain death to grab 3 tags on the way.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 8:51 pm

Well the drawback is only the killer sees the gold tags on her/his minimap.

The rest of the team only sees the gold flags when they're right in front of them or close to their field of vision. If we had someone fill that role, they'd need to call out where the tags are located so we could go pick them up.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 9:21 pm

He didn't grab tags because he didn't want the game to end...why would he when he's racking up kills like that?


But not grabbing red tags right in front of you is just plain stupid...
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeFri Dec 23, 2011 9:28 pm

I agree, he had dozens of opportunities to grab tags, both enemy and friendly and chose not to. He was like many other tool boxes in this game he's playing TDM in a completely different objective based game. As stated, his teammates don't see all the downed yellow tags so they have no clue where he's mass raped people unless they come across them by chance. Yes, perhaps if they has captured more in their travels, but he is equally to blame for his selfish kill whoring. He cared more about racking up kills than winning the objective and thus, the match.

I can see the value of having a great killer on your team, but in a communicating team atmosphere. Was he alerting his teammates where all these open tags were? He got 92 kills and captured 3 total tags and it seems they may have even been by accident on his part.

He deserved to see derriere at the end.
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeSat Dec 24, 2011 1:27 am

I'm just admiring his connection and wishing mine was that smooth. Lets see that SOB killwhore with the pixel people jumping around...
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PostSubject: Re: 92 -1 and lost the match   92 -1 and lost the match Icon_minitimeSat Dec 24, 2011 1:33 am

I'm most amazed that he can have that many kills in a groundwar game without somebody spawning 3 feet behind him and shooting him in the back...
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