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Subject: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 2:56 pm
I'm seeing the MSMC used effectively by some of the advanced players, but I never really 'hit it off' with the MSMC when progressing through the weapons and I never really went back to it.
So... quick SMG preference poll for a mid-range map/game:
-MSMC -Peacekeeper -PDW
Any 'must-have' attachments for the choice above...?
Thanks
xXx MiGs xXx
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 2:58 pm
Use an AR
TripleAce Andy
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 3:11 pm
Totally with you!
My main piece is the SWAT-556 with select fire for auto (and target finder ). It' been effective in getting my KD back to positive, but now I'm rethinking the setup.. or at least want to explore other mid-range, run/gun classes.
Although the SWAT's my 'steady' girl, my eye keeps drifting to the M-27 or Type25 from time to time.
birddotcom
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 3:14 pm
Peacekeeper with Red Dot, Fast Mag.
MP7 Mast Mag.
I'm with you, never realy got into the MSMC. I see them in the kill cam all the time.
Winners
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 3:16 pm
I use the MSMC or PDW. If I dont have one of these I have the DSR 50 with overkill and an MSMC lol.
Kamea6
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 3:55 pm
i dont really use smg's anymore, unless i pick one up off the ground when i run out of ammo. mid range i just stay with the ar's or lmg's.
MikeyB78x
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 5:59 pm
well....
I used to use nothing but the pdw until they nerfed it. now it bounces around way too much for my taste. in my opinion the peacekeeper is awesome. I use long barrel and fast mag. im almost exclusive with the peacekeeper but depending on the map have been using the mp7 lately and its a pretty good smg as well.
M4sterOfDi4ster
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Subject: MSMC Mon May 06, 2013 6:06 pm
MSMC all the way, silenced or long barrel.
Peasekeeper has better range but I can't stand the sound of it, just used it long enough to get gold.
Kicker is I still don't have my MSMC gold yet.
Doamne01
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 6:09 pm
I agree with Mikey, that the MP7 is a good choice. I probably use the MSMC the most and I still like the PDW. If you want one that's good mid to mid-long range, but good up close, then the Vector K10 is really accurate and can get you a little longer range kills. If you're on a map that you have to be in the open with some range to cap a flag (like Drone's B-Flag), then the Vector is great.
Maverick9227
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 6:48 pm
The Type 25 is awesome now with 97% movement speed and increased damage.
TheCanisDirus
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 7:18 pm
Short range: Riot Shield Medium range: Tomahawk or C4 Long range: FN five seven
Seriously
But i voted Peacekeeper as it rocks at the far medium to long range for a SMG.
Sr Slampiece
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 7:30 pm
The MSMC with quick grip and laser is my go to SMG regardless of map.
Criptic Wolf
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 8:28 pm
Whenever I want to use SMG's I always find myself migrating back to the MSMC
bluehound000
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Mon May 06, 2013 10:05 pm
I voted for Peacekeeper, it would be the superior weapon in mid range engagements. Its not great for CQ since the firing rate is too slow, but you can't beat it at midrange(for an SMG). And you'll get SMG mobility ADS without having to burn a slot with "Adjustable Stock" like you would with an AR. But you'll still have the ability to reach down an alley and I think you get a little more wallbanging potential with a Peacekeeper than an MSMC or PDW.
The peacekeeper is great for headglitching or strafing(peeking) out around a corner to hold down and alley or chokepoint. But you need to keep your distance from the SMG's who can rush and overpower you at close range.
I also like the iron sights on the gun, so I don't need to burn a slot for a reflex or any other optics.
TripleAce Andy
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Tue May 07, 2013 9:02 am
All the points about the Peacekeeper are valid bluehound.. the biggest issue for me with the Peacekeeper is the low rate of fire I feel when using this gun.
Most stats tables (http://symthic.com/cod-bo2-weapon-charts#00001000ncnn1) list MSMC, Peacekeeper and PDW with the same fire rate of 750 RPM, but the Peacekeeper 'feels' like it's the slowest.. and rapid fire (in my experience) turns any good gun into a spray and pray situation.
Revisited the MSMC last night and had some decent luck with it..
Brennan_Huff122
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Tue May 07, 2013 4:43 pm
For the mid range smg i go with the peace keeper with fast mags and quick draw
But my go to smg are the mp7 and vecter. Higher rate of fire and can move quicker with them
TheZeroDivide
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Tue May 07, 2013 7:26 pm
I generally run the MSMC with fast mags, and either long barrel, laser, or quickdraw grip.
Lightweight Toughness Dexterity Tactical Mask
MSMC - Long Barrel, Fast mags Kap-40
C4
Perk 1 Greed
That's my go to class when I really need a win or I'm having a bad game.
Here's a very short video showing the range of the MSMC with different attachments.
JRED_31
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Subject: Re: Mid Range SMG Tue May 07, 2013 10:08 pm
Peacekeeper in my mind is the best gun in the game. I have 10,000 kills and over 1000 head shots with the lady. I've run with every attachment possible in every combination. Silenced quick mags is my go-to. It's a fast accurate Lmg to me. The AN, Scar,Pdw, and Msmc are great guns but every once in while ill have problems with them or they don't perform consistently. The peacekeeper is always the same for me.