2 ideas that would completely balance the stupidity that is quickscoping in BO2

1.Greatly reduce aim assist on the sniper rifles.

2. Greatly increase the flinch on the sniper rifles. I sniper aiming at the chest shouldn't land a headshot when he is being shot at. The gun should be aiming at the sky if a sniper is taking damage.

There you go. A sniper would have to make that first bullet count or he would be F'd. Unfortunately quickscoping is here to stay, but if that is the case it should be balanced which clearly it is not in this game. It's a shame because Treyarch nailed the sniper rifles in BO1.

q scoping and cod same o same o is just another reason not buy cod ghost !

I agree. BO1 snipers were better balanced. I still didn't use much though, especially with no overkill and weaker pistols.

No ads when cycling the bolt, no semi-auto snipers.

Repo_Dog wrote:

q scoping and cod same o same o is just another  reason not buy cod ghost !

ding ding ding

flinch and recoil should be increased for all sniper rifles

quickscoping is fucking stupid and a bi product of a antiquated game engine. even if it could be fixed it won't be because the pre pubescent COD fanboi's would lose their 2" hard on's over it.. and we all know vahnderhaar is all about lil boy chub  

hell my kid even canceled his ghost preorder yesterday done with cod !
order killzone and destiny !

Run it like battlefield. An attachment to cycle the bolt in ADS. Then take away all AIM ASSIST. Finally add bullet drop and OHK for headshot only.

Quickscoping has been around for years, sure it's annoying. But it's not dead man's hand. I think shot guns are worse and more annoying.

Maverick9227 wrote:

Run it like battlefield. An attachment to cycle the bolt in ADS. Then take away all AIM ASSIST. Finally add bullet drop and OHK for headshot only.

THIS!!!!!! Bullet drop... much longer ADS or sway as your ADS so your accuracy is in shit hipfire until it steadies a full second and a half after looking in the scope.

Even the "Best" QS'ers wouldn't be able to run and gun anymore... they'd have to actually think and plan... ya know... like a sniper haha.

let us all remember that this is just a game and not a real life war simulator. I'm sure you BF guys have plenty of WTF moments.

^^^You're right, but even still... QS'ing is a problem that should be fixed for simple balance issues. 

3Arch spends so much time tweaking all other weapons.. nerfing... buffing... they should really address the snipers.  QS'ing isn't a "thing"... sniping is just broken in COD.

It takes time and a lot of practice to be good at sniping. I'd much rather get quickscoped than shot by some guy running around with the R870 with long barrel and laser sight. Now that cheap, IMO.

Well I'm glad to see we are still beating this till it's glue.

YellowGeeHawd wrote:

Well I'm glad to see what we are still beating this till it's glue.

+1


Reach-a-round incoming

It is not going any where in cod to many douses that like it !

YellowGeeHawd wrote:

Well I'm glad to see we are still beating this till it's glue.

 It's what we do here! 

C'mon... some people are still thinking about actually buying an Xbox One! (JK guys - don't string me up)

gun fer hire wrote:

much longer ADS or sway as your ADS so your accuracy is in shit hipfire until it steadies a full second and a half after looking in the scope.  

Even the "Best" QS'ers wouldn't be able to run and gun anymore... they'd have to actually think and plan... ya know... like a sniper haha.

Then you'd just bitch about them 'camping'...  

Ur just earned yourself a reach around death

I don't like Quick scoping but I'm not bitching about it because I tend to have my best games against quick scopers. There are a lot of things I don't like but I am sure there are people that don't like some of the things I do too. I drop shot, I spawn kill, I run around with an MP7 wearing ghost. There are people who complain about all these things too.


The one thing I will say negative about QS's. They leave. If they cant set up and do well they leave to protect their K/D. Im sure there are exceptions but at least 90% of the ones we play, we rush them and kill them before they get to their spots and no more than 2 minutes into the game they leave. I see no other play style that does this more than QS's.

Alright,  I will be the one who sticks up for the snipers or quickscopers here.  I very rarely picked up a sniper in any CoD until BO2 because I sucked with them (and still do for the most part) but like many of us who feel like their spinning their wheels not getting anywhere in this game I said screw it, my SPM, Accuracy, KD, whatever all suck in this game so I'm just going to try something out of my comfort zone and that was sniping.

Is quick scoping realistic? Of course not.  But this is a video game.  Is getting wall banged across the map by a pistol or killed by being hit in a foot with a throwing knife realistic either? Of course not.

I think those who hate quickscoping are the ones who never took the time to try and learn to do it well.  I use to hate quickscoping too but for me, I hated it because I sucked at it.  Now if someone comes around the corner and snipes my face off it sucks, but I can appreciate that it does take more skill and accuracy to do it with a sniper than if they did it with an SMG or pistol.

I highly doubt anyone has ever quickscoped someone and thought to themselves "OMG I'm such a douchebag for exploiting a broken mechanics"  No, they would probably grin then run over and teabag them too.

If it's poor mechanics or the game is broken then I suggest the next time you find yourself up against a quickscoper in a match, pick a sniper class or his gun and fight fire with fire.  If it's the games fault, then you shouldn't have any problems qs-ing him back with little to no experience right?

Sniping is not an instant "GodMod" they certainly have their vulnerabilities.  Some of us 30s were sniping just yesterday and the majority of the team switched to riot shield and pistols.  Smart move on their part.  OR like someone mentioned here a while back about smoke and dualband LMGs. There's a counter to everything.

If you can't beat'em, join'em!  

I couldn't have said it any better slam. Love you!!

Nice post slam - nicer clip...too bad it was with the O/P DSR!    LOL

I stuck up for the snipers big time in another thread, as it's absolutely not easy to do.  People will always find something to bitch about...and I'm cool with that.  That's what a forum is designed to do...give people the platform to express their thoughts.

But, I do grow weary of EVERYTHING in the game being labled as 'broken'.

I snipe quite a bit - mainly NOT QS'ing, but it happens from time to time.  And, when it does happen, i always think "OMG I'm such a douchebag for exploiting a broken mechanic"!!   

Fav SnD class:
DSR (computer thing & dual band)
MSMC
Lightweight
Fast Hands
Ext Conditioning/Dext

All good points everyone. Diff strokes... nobody's wrong. Group hugs and shit.



Sniper only playlists and no snipers allowed playlists would be the easiest way to make everyone happy. But then we know everyone will be playing in the no sniper playlists and the complaints would be coming from the sniper kids because they have nobody to play with lol.

I personally would just love to see the snipers adjusted to stop quick scoping. Much longer ADS time and increase the time your accuracy goes from hipfire to ADS accuracy. As i've mentioned... make them think a little more before sprinting around that next corner... balance that one-shot-kill ability with a longer ADS so they cant just tap left trigger, pause, right trigger and waste someone at any range, anywere on the map.

Make the center of the reticule area slightly different with each ADS left trigger squeeze so the kids stop using the static-cling hip-fire sights. (ok i'm guilty i’ve tried them... and for QS'ing... it's completely unfair to have that nice static, unchanging crosshair to line up your scope-in with. Quite frankly it's an unfair advantage with any weapon... but it's most beneficial with QS'ing).



Some think that QS'ing is some talent-dignifying "1337" skill... but i don't. I don't care how many think it's some crazy unatanable thing... it's not. It's just some practice (muscle memory for timing - learn to stop bf shooting - line up left as the ADS animation is up-right - get used to higher sensitivities to aquire targets faster etc.)

I've played with a lot of you... and have never liked the QS thing... but i always, always hold my own with a sniper... esp in FNGs. ( a few of you know this well lol) So i don't think it's that difficult... speaking from experience with short bursts trying QS'ing. To me it's more dependent on connection. Try and QS on the shit side of the lag comp... id love to see even the OpTic JaZz Nutz QS'badazzes with junk connection try it. If you have those few extra milliseconds to react as a QS'er... you'll win.

And someone doesn't have to be an amazing QS'er to start to advantageously effect their team's collective gameplay. I think this is why so many people are doing it now. You take a little time to practice and feel like one man death squad after a month of learning. It just takes one or two, half-way decent snipers running around, charging to lay some serious hurt down on the opposition.

Again... this is just me. And i know QS'ing is here to stay. It's far too popular with all the new YouTube celeb sniping only league stuff... But it doesn't change the fact that it changes the game dynamic. Second only to the ridiculous range of most shotguns in BO2.

/TLDR Rant

I hate quickscopers!!!!  Fcuk them! I r jealous    I hate them, but I love doing it...why....because i know someone else is just as pissed off as I was.  I would be fine if they didn't change anything about QS'ing if they would just get rid of the damn tac insert.  80% of the people using tac inserts are snipers (18% are boosters the other 2% is the twelevens of people playing the objective and 73.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot).  If the tac insert is gone then they have to spawn out of the action and that is tolerable because it is a high risk/high reward gun.

Gotta run....time to go play some OP combat with by DSR/870 class