BO:2 Competitive Group

I guess we need to decide on who we want to play with and who we don't.

I will leave this at that.

M I S S I L E R wrote:

I guess we need to decide on who we want to play with and who we don't.

I will leave this at that.

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Spirit of thread is about people learning maps and competitive play though. For those who don't understand all elements of gameplay, zero is offering help..

My comment has nothing to do with the thread it has to do with your comment

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Triple capping is overrated; everyone gets more points if they aren't randomly spawning behind

It's a shame more people, who are over 30 years old mind you, can't figure this out....some of the better players around here are hiding from domination play because of this (don't worry; not calling you out!)..

Yes there are some maps that are great to hold down and not want to flip the spawn like slums, nuketown, etc. There are also maps that the spawn points are so random especially nuketown, and hijacked that you could be holding down C and B while we had score streaks flip the spawns the other day and the enemy spawn behind us or on top of us.

My play style isn't camping and waiting on the enemy to come to me. To me that is boring. I enjoy going commando on the enemy and being where they least expect me. I love triple capping on Raid and Plaza. With a couple people working together you can triple cap on Plaza and still hold b with people working the club and D' Bo.

Either way I fully play the objective and the funny thing is when I have been playing with people that don't like the triple cap I haven't been doing it and I get shot in the back because the next thing you know they are taking c or a and not calling it out. I think no matter how you play team work and letting your team know what you are doing is the key whether you are triple capping or not.

Well...i disagree but whatever. Nuketown (and all maps) are easy to control spawns. To competitivel play at the higher levels (platinum and masters), not contolling the spawn will get the team a loss.

For public play, I don't give a crap...i will roll with whoever and just logout if I feel there sn't any chemistry. For league play, yeah...I know who I will and will not team with.

OK here goes nothing. Since the original thread has already been hijacked and turned into tactics. Zero offered to help people understand maps and map control and using cover and Im reading into this somewhat but I assume clear out B before taking B instead of randomly dieing on the flag. Alot of people want that kind of help and its good that he is offering it. Somewhere along the way in the thread it turned into trip cap bashing. I think it is widely known on the XBOX side that there is a group of us that lead the charge on trip capping. I will leave the others unnamed and they can call themselves out if they want to. I am not ashamed.

I like to run and gun that is how I have fun playing this game. When it is a struggle to get the win I dont mind turning that off for a game or 2 if needed to win the game. But I can not change my style of play to finding a position of advantage somewhere around B and shoot people as they come through a choke point. That is not fun for me, and if its not fun I can find other things to do with my time.

I dont play this way because I "cant figure this out" or because Im "stupid" as mentioned in other posts above. I dont even care about the points on the scorestreak which seems to keep coming up. I dont run high score streaks because of my playstyle. I play this way because its fun. When the team doesnt want to trip cap I dont. Its kind of a majority rules thing along with map selection.


If you like to play the game slow and watch choke points and get high kill streaks I get it more power to you. Its a smart way to play. I will not bash you for it and call you a camper or a head glitcher or whatever other creative terms gamers come up with on live. I will say you are playing smart and to win. This does not mean we are playing stupid and to lose. I think our winning % is as good as most anyone else in the clan and we have pretty good k/Ds, some better than others, mines not that great but it is positive, and pretty high SPMs.

[quote="M I S S I L E R"we had score streaks flip the spawns the other day and the enemy spawn behind us or on top of us. [/quote] I couldn't believe a FN dragon was flipping the spawns for us - that's complete bull shit! Damn you 3Arc!

And i think all playstyles can work together as long as everyone communicates as M I S said... communication is everything in CoD... esp. when the game has so many odd spawning and lag issues as this year's.

xXx G3TZUM xXx wrote:

Well...i disagree but whatever. Nuketown (and all maps) are easy to control spawns. To competitivel play at the higher levels (platinum and masters), not contolling the spawn will get the team a loss.

For public play, I don't give a crap...i will roll with whoever and just logout if I feel there sn't any chemistry. For league play, yeah...I know who I will and will not team with.

League play is a totally different subject. I play league play differently than I play domination. I rarely play league as hardly anyone does and rolling with randoms really sucks most of the time. You can disagree if you like but we had warthogs, swarms, and even a dragonfly flip the spawns on Nuketown domination. Also with league play you are either playing TDM, Hardpoint, CTF, or S&D. Your comment referred to triple capping in Domination.

I don't care what peoples play style is as we all play differently. There is nothing wrong with that. If we are communicating when triple capping if you do know the spawns then you should know they are going to spawn mid map of the opposite flag from the one you are taking. Like I said key is communication.

I think the thread should get back to its origin of having some practices and the cordination of those practices because it was a good idea and its being lost. If we ant to discuss play styles someone should start a new thread.

So who's is up for some training practices?

TG Baller wrote:

I think the thread should get back to its origin of having some practices and the cordination of those practices because it was a good idea and its being lost. If we ant to discuss play styles someone should start a new thread.

So who's is up for some training practices?

Whoa, whoa. You disappoint me sir. Baller I never ever saw you as a voice of reason. I still don't. I think you are probably showing off for someone with your "Lets get back on topic blah blah blah.." I hope your lady friend you are showing off for is worth it. This is only the third page of this thread. We have many more miles of detour to travel before we get back on the main highway.


PS I reached around that shit Baller so to get you extra brownie points with whomever you are sucking up to.

#FUSlam

Does this bring me any redemption for my momentary lapse of disorder and mayhem?

What!! We're talkin bout practice

KillerWhiteRyno here to say I was an ok player before I met zero, with swift questioning as to how he was playing the way I wanted to. To me the fun in this particular game is getting all the streaks rolling over teams. That's just what I like, I remember when I first got some advice from Zero and I said, "its really hard for me to play this slow" he said you don't have to play slow, he taught me how to patrol correctly within the flag cap stradegy or ANY map or game type. Before I got a few loadstars and vtols and swiftly after I was able to get the dogs and swarms that make people send me hate mail and accuse me of cheating, this is the ultimate to me on a game youtubers brag about their score streaks. At the same time I love playing support and challenging myself to get more straight up gun kills, which is fun to piss a lobby off when you get 50 plus gun kills running uav counter vsat. To each their own. The first game I played with zero I started asking questions and he has been so amazing to help my gameplay to play how I really wanted too and he can help with anyone's game play style. I love a rusher when we're holding choke points because the enemy has no clue where to run. Thanks for your help Zero and anytime I get the pleasure of bring on your team I'll jump at the chance. I'm in on any competitive play and want to push myself to the highest level I can. I want that 100+ gameplay, haha I want to learn as much as I can.
Ryno Out

Thanks for the kind words, Ryno. This thread is getting a little derailed, so let's get it back on topic. I'm still putting together what we're going to be doing, so just be patient.

By the way, look at Nick's thread then look at mine. I was very specific in stating there was no in-game stats requirement. I don't care if you're a 0.4 or a 4.0 K/D player, everyone can learn something, including me.

I thought I covered it Zero offers help=I'm in! Everyone else I promise it's really fun!

"Zero"

Thanks for taking the time to organize this. I'm really looking forward to learning, practicing, and getting better.

Perhaps these sessions and games can be recorded for future reference and sharing among 'trainees'.

Considering the amount of interest in this and the likelihood of getting everyone interested online at same time zero's available. Does anyone in this thread have video+party chat record capabilities?

Andy, great idea. I can record the sessions then post them. Here's what I plan on doing:

I'm going to emphasize league play and domination, since concepts from the league play games and dom games will carry over to all game types in pubs as well.

The first thing I'm going to teach is map movement and utilizing cover. It's probably the easiest thing to teach that will have an impact on game play. We'll have a lesson on how to do it, then we'll play some games so we can put the lesson into practice. Then we'll move onto working within a team, and from there go to map knowledge and spawn points. Map knowledge and spawn points will take the longest, as I'll probably have to make videos beforehand showing the spawn points and how to control them.

I'll also review game footage in theater mode with anyone who wants it so that I can point out mistakes made, things to do differently, etc.

My schedule is as follows: On Tuesday and Wednesday, I'm off work so I'm available almost any time. Any other day I can't be on until after 10:30 EST.

Let me know when you guys are available so I can set up some sessions.

I'm off Tuesdays as well and Wednesdays I don't go in until 10-11 MST and you know I'm up late so pencil me in. Thanks!
Ryno

You need to have a "special needs" gaming clinic Zero.

I can play after 5pm eastern on Wed

Most weeknights after 8:30/9PM (EST) I'm on ~1 hr. I can extend it to 2 or more hours here and there, but good to know in advance.

Weekends are in the 3~4 hrs range after 8:30.

I have availability most nights after 8:00pm CST.

Re: the hijacking - I think Baller & I share a brain as I agree with every word of his posts...however, that is different than what I think Zero is talking about.

Baller was talking about playing pubs 6v6 - I *think* Zero is talking about getting into competitive play...which is a very different mindset..IMO. THAT is the part that really interests me...the competitive side of things. That's what I'd like to learn and get better at.

OK, wednesday seems to be a good day, so we'll start doing these on wednesday at 9pm est. Sessions will last about an hour. I'll also be making videos to explain concepts so that we don't have to do everything in the sessions and will have more time to practice utilizing them.

Also this is for competitive play. The concepts apply to pubs, but that's not the reason I'm doing this.

Yeah I'd like to check this out too...I'll show up when I can, but I don't work the same days week to week so I'll just go with the flow.

I'm in too Zero, I do need to up my play. I really need to work on my ability to regain control of areas. Holding isn't as much a problem, but getting leverage to take BACK control is not my strongsuit. So when things turn to chaos I struggle to get back on track.

And I do need to work strongly on fundamental mechanics. Aim and accuracy immediately, instead of walking the gun around to find the target. Knowing what I want to do, and making it happen on the screen are two separate things

And I'm sick of blaming lag for every crappy game that I have. Its becoming the "go-to" excuse for what many times is poor play and I don't want to do that anymore. When a good team get you back on your heels this game quits being fun. And I start to forget all the fundamental stuff and revert to reckless abandon to try and overpower the other team. Which typically fails miserably because the reason you are in the pickle you are is because they are a powerful team.