Overcoming The "Bad Spawn"

I have heard numerous times in pre-game "I hope we dont get the shit spawn" (thanks to CrazyNixon) on certain maps...

Most notably Village and Mission where if you spawn A you are really screwed if the team you are playing is any good.

Who has a strategy to overcome this, IDREF or the UK guys usually have some sort of map strategies.

We had a very good team running last night with Nixon and Vegas and some others and we got the bad spawn on Mission and within 30 seconds I think Vegas backed us out because they had the whole map on lockdown with snipers covering our spawn and B flag covered as well.

The best way is to rush for B and then capture C and hopefully flip the spawn.

Sgt, you cant rush B on those maps, its too far from the opening spawn, the other team basically starts at B, It holds true in Dome too, but its such a small map the A spawn team can overtake B fairly easily

On village don't bother with A. All 6 rush C from the white truck side and over whelm it while the other team split between B and C. Clear the village, push them thru B and 1 of them is bound to try to take A.
Once we have C maintain a strong presence in the village and it will flip the spawn.

Mission...Leave the game thats all.................

Mission is really a joke, if you get B from the C side you have all that cover to defend it from the guys coming up the hill... the village strategy makes sense though, shouldnt one guy stay behind and take A though?

As others said it's all about pulling your balls out and running like lunatics to take B and C...a tacinsert or two couldn't hurt

MANIC wrote:

As others said it's all about pulling your balls out and running like lunatics to take B and C...a tacinsert or two couldn't hurt

Manic, its just not possible on Mission... anyone have an idea for that map?

I like the idea on Village and it probably would work, once you gain control of C you can push toward B

kjcolby1978 wrote:

Mission is really a joke, if you get B from the C side you have all that cover to defend it from the guys coming up the hill... the village strategy makes sense though, shouldnt one guy stay behind and take A though?

If A is untaken it will entice them to cross the bridge and move into the cave side. And they will meet no resistance tricking them into pushing further into the A spawn.
The idea is a counterclockwise flush if everyone moves together and pushes them to B across the bridge and into A the flip should happen pretty quickly.

I think the same idea could work for mission to. Not sure if the alley or the road is the best way to cross the map....But spawn flip should be priority #1 C flag should be the first flag we take..

But either way getting to C could be trouble....Doin it in the first 30 seconds before defensive positions are secured by the enemy may be the best time..

I know not capping A flies in the face of all that is Dom, but the spawn flip is the most important thing on these maps. We can come back from a 20-30 point deficit once the spawning is in order.

the street is very dangerous as a route to C but I see no other way

SN0WR1DER wrote:

I think the same idea could work for mission to. Not sure if the alley or the road is the best way to cross the map....But spawn flip should be priority #1 C flag should be the first flag we take..

But either way getting to C could be trouble....Doin it in the first 30 seconds before defensive positions are secured by the enemy may be the best time..

I know not capping A flies in the face of all that is Dom, but the spawn flip is the most important thing on these maps. We can come back from a 20-30 point deficit once the spawning is in order.

This man speaks the ways of murder and mayhem... Getting C isn't impossible, just an uphill battle but once its done what a freaking feeling of "fuck you"

Going to have to try this, but the whole team has to do it, not the couple guys who just run to A for the point to their streak

You might have better luck with a double flank, half go clockwise the other half counterclockwise. The half that has the best cover should draw fire first and take cover while the other half moves in from behind. Don’t forget if we are planning this other teams will too. Defending the good spawn and scout team to B would be prudent.

I gotta get FERDI in here for his take on each map and how to play it

there are lots of flanks to B on Mission.Use the alleys from the open side or toss goodies onto B from the ditch side to prevent or slow them from getting B and then proceed to C. Never thought about skipping a flag altogether, but it makes sense and should fool the game into spawning us at C if we take and and skip A.

I was watching a youtube and what they mentioned subtly was that the game will spawn you at the last flag you capped until you lose it.

I like the idea, we just need to make a thread about which map to take what

On mission we just have to commit the whole team to C off the start...they are gonna cap it and send guys to B and that's the best chance to take it. I kinda like the half and half approach...but everybody coming from one area might be too overwhelming for them to stop...

also we technically dont want A on that map even if we start sitting on top of it, all 6 killers have to be committed though to going to C or it will mess up the spawning

Straight up the ravine with six, no question. I am sick to death beating the strategy drum. Dom on MW3 needs disipline end of. Like suggested give up the points for the sake of the flip.

Another three maps are Resistance C and B are best two, Hardhat A and B and downturn C and B.

On these three the idea is to live between the two flags and keep the spawns tight. It also protects sam's if they cant get behind you.

good stuff fran, the clan needs to hammer this home as a team

Dome is probably the easiest map to get spawn trapped in, if the other team is any good and using tac inserts, especially on Sabotage. It happened the other night where I joined a game and the other team was getting MOABs, Overwatch, Osprey Gunners and not playing the objective whatsoever.

I realize it's not technically boosting/exploiting, but it may as well be... I was the only person on my team that could break out of the spawn traps and I ended up like 20-11 after joining with 6 minutes left, while the other team had 1 guy that was over 100 kills and less than 15 deaths, others over 70/80 kills, etc. Not my idea of fun but I do enjoy Sabotage. It was even funnier when I got behind them for a bit and was doing the shooting and hearing them on the mics ("dude I died and he smashed my insert") LOL

edit: As far as Mission/Dome goes, if anyone is a decent sniper, countersniping works well on Mission to break out of a spawn trap, there are a few spots where it's easy to snipe from, check out tmartn's video for jumps & spots for mission for those spots on youtube.

That's why I don't play sabatoge. SInce I started playing this series (COD4) it has always been that way. It's too easy to camp the bomb. This is also why I am not a big fan of Kill Confirmed.

Biggest mistake I see when a team is spawn camping you (this always happens with random players) is the team getting camped doesn't push forward. It only takes one player to get behind them and the rest of the team will spawn on them.

im all about rushing a flag to get an advantage with the spawns, on dome if you hold A/C they will spawn at B and there is only two ways out of the building with the B flag, we did this the other night in two different games and it worked well, just dont push into the building and they will eventually come out.

i like the idea on village to rush C, that is definitely the better side to spawn on

still havent played alot of dom with the clan but i will probably be playing more, just havent gotten the hang of it yet with the spawn system....practice makes perfect

up the ravine worked well earlier...took a couple guys out right quick and took control of c...then we took control of the map and crushed...